tae kwondo and other martial arts

[desperado]

hey wondered who else was in martial arts here. i have been in tae kwondo for about 7 years and should "hopefully if nothing happens" get my black belt next month

[CDLviking]

I am taking Tae Kwon Do and Happkido now. I have also taken Shinkendo and Arnis. I'm looking into taking regular Kendo now that I am 3 hours from the nearest Shinkendo dojo.

[desperado]

long drive

[Solid Ronin]

long drive

You may not wanna type such short messages as its spam.

As for me I *study Ninjutsu.

*= I do it only when I have time or the desire

[desperado]

sorry about that didnt think it was since it did fully pertain to what he said. and ninjistu is pretty cool a freind of mine is high up in it. personally i really like some of ninjitsu's weapons that other styles just dont know like the scythe and chain

[agasfas]

i have taken tae kwondo long time ago but still remember a lot. I'm also experineced in grappling (wrestling and brazilian jujitsu) and I'm working on my boxing. I think it's always good to know many styles. It keeps you well rounded and gives your a better strategy. That way you adpat your own style that fits you best. That's why Bruce Lee started jeet kune do. To use what works from each style and intergrade them into one.

Example:
If your fighting a boxer and your not one yourself, why try to box? You want to try and take it to the ground or use kicks.

**I dont mean to offend all the tae kwondo people, but I dont like the fighting style (personally). Or at least the tournament aspects. They place to much emphases on kicking. I watch tournaments all the time and all i ever see are kicks. And everytime they score the scorer falls to the ground. And as they fall they throw a punch. But I'm not going to bash the whole thing, tae kwondo is very usefully and has it's history. Theres also a reason why most karate school are tae kwondo. But all-in-all tae kwondo is very useful way to defend ones self. I just meant in tournaments they place to much emphases on points rather than the overall fight.

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I'm not saying go out and fight, but it's always good to how and defend yourself. That's why like martial arts. They teach fighting only as a last resort and some even teach to fight w/o hurting the attacker. But none the less i think more men and women need to learn to defend themselves.

And Kendo! I want to learn that, it would be fun!

[CDLviking]

I think all marshall arts are lowered a little bit in their sport form because it becomes more about scoring the point than what would actually win a real fight.

[Yojimbo]

I've been doing Aikido for almost a year. Aikido is very different from other martial arts while it uses some basic techniques and ideas from other Japanese arts, such as jiujistu and judo, it uses them with the intention of causing as little damage and effort as possible to take down your oponent.

[agasfas]

I think all marshall arts are lowered a little bit in their sport form because it becomes more about scoring the point than what would actually win a real fight.

I totally agree.

I was actually thinking of joining the Aikido club on campus. I was doing some research and it looks like a good sport. But i heard it takes a bit of practice to be able to use it effectively; actually sounds like most forms of martial arts .

[Solid Ronin]

I think all marshall arts are lowered a little bit in their sport form because it becomes more about scoring the point than what would actually win a real fight.

Amen! Thats why I like ninjutsu so much..Its not a sport so anything goes..thats just great

[SpikeSpiegel306]

Ninjutsu-Black Belt 2nd degree
Iyaido (Weapon Fighting in General)-Black Belt 2nd degree
Battoujutsu-Black Belt 1st degree
Jeet Kun Do-Black Belt 2nd degree
Kaijonmo-Black Belt 1st degree

I am currently taking:
Zonbattou-Blue Belt
Hiten Mitserughi Ryu-Black Belt 1st degree

[agasfas]

Sound cool. I really enjoy the martial arts, it's a good thing to know. I even like all of those martial art movies (well the older ones at least)

[Yojimbo]

[quote="agasfas"]I totally agree.

I was actually thinking of joining the Aikido club on campus. I was doing some research and it looks like a good sport. But i heard it takes a bit of practice to be able to use it effectively]

I know you weren't exactly thinking about it when you posted but I'll say Aikido is not a sport. We do not compete in any way shape or form. That is one of the biggest reasons why I like Aikido. It hasn't been around long enough for it to be commercialized. I don't mean to bash anyone's martial art if you do karate or taekwondo, but martial arts like that have become based only on competition or churning out belts as fast they can like factories. Not in all cases of course but when I look around I see the majority of those schools have become that way.

One of the biggest reasons why I like Aikido is the philosophy behind it. The first principle of Aikido is "Victory Over Self". I practice Aikido first and foremost for self improvement. The second is "Correct Victory" which means to win the correct movement and to defeat but not injure your opponet if possible. The third is "Victory Over the Speed of Light" which means that Aikido techniques must be executed with speed. When one learns the movements then they may work on fast and efficient execution.

Another big reason of why Aikido differs so much from other arts is in the execution of moves. Why brace for an attack when you can move out of the way? Why break your attacker's joints and deliberately cause him injury to that degree if it's not neccesary? One of the the senior student's at my club used to do brazilian jiujitsu for 6 years. He described a single move from a wrist grab that would typically leave a person with a couple broken bones and a bruised groin area... Why do that when you can use his momentum against him, get him off balance, and bend his joints the way they naturally bend causing as little harm as possible, but at the same time taking him down? Why is energy wasted and people hurt when they don't have to be? That's not to say that you can't be more martial in Aikido, as I explained earler it does derive from other traditional Japanese martial arts. But while that extreme force is present and availible if absolutely neccesary, it is always used as a last resort.

[agasfas]

I know you weren't exactly thinking about it when you posted but I'll say Aikido is not a sport.

I agree. It's just how i phrased somethings . Sorry for the misunderstanding. But i totally agree with everything you said. You hit the nail on the head.

[Jasdero]

Heh, okay...

Tae Kwon Doe -> Black Belt / Black Belt Club
Karate -> Black Belt / Black Belt Club

But that was when I was about 10. ";;;

[c.t.,girl]

I know you weren't exactly thinking about it when you posted but I'll say Aikido is not a sport.]
i totally agree! i do however take karate, shaolin kempo to be exact. i go to ussd. they have tornaments like all the time. it is fun though, but my instructor gets way to competative. i'm a really mellow person so i don't really get all hyped up about it. i don't like being in front or in big groups. it scares me. anywho, yah i've been in this for like a lil over two years and i've already gotten to green with brown stipe. now in mine we have 22 belts so i'm 4 belts away from black and 14 away from tenth degree black belt. i've heard it takes a long time to get to black though.

One of the biggest reasons why I like Aikido is the philosophy behind it. The first principle of Aikido is "Victory Over Self". I practice Aikido first and foremost for self improvement. The second is "Correct Victory" which means to win the correct movement and to defeat but not injure your opponet if possible. The third is "Victory Over the Speed of Light" which means that Aikido techniques must be executed with speed. When one learns the movements then they may work on fast and efficient execution.

Another big reason of why Aikido differs so much from other arts is in the execution of moves. Why brace for an attack when you can move out of the way? Why break your attacker's joints and deliberately cause him injury to that degree if it's not neccesary? One of the the senior student's at my club used to do brazilian jiujitsu for 6 years. He described a single move from a wrist grab that would typically leave a person with a couple broken bones and a bruised groin area... Why do that when you can use his momentum against him, get him off balance, and bend his joints the way they naturally bend causing as little harm as possible, but at the same time taking him down? Why is energy wasted and people hurt when they don't have to be? That's not to say that you can't be more martial in Aikido, as I explained earler it does derive from other traditional Japanese martial arts. But while that extreme force is present and availible if absolutely neccesary, it is always used as a last resort.

wow! i think i need to get into this. i'm always asking my instructor, "isn't there a different move to where we don't kill the person?" it always seems like that is how it is there. i think this is why i was questioning why i should be in this if i'm almost killing or putting a person in a wheel chair. we to learn the same principle, it's just they want us to like kill them or fight til they can't. it's scary.

[Gypsy]

I've been taking kickboxing for 4 years now, mixed in with some other styles. What I take basically boils down to a street fighting class. We learn the self defense first (including how to effectively kick, punch, dodge, and counterattack), then we move on to Aikido (which can be extremely painful), grappling (let's face it, you can't always fight on your feet) and then pracitcal weapons (like the escrema and bo, weapons that you could make/find anywhere). Then, we have the option to study the more flowery stuff later, like swords, nanchaku, and forms.

[CDLviking]

When did swords become flowery? *remembers Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon* Oh yeah, now I remember.

[SpikeSpiegel306]

Do Americans enjoy martial arts then? I have never really pictured them as martial artists, but I guess thats just a misconception.

[CDLviking]

It depends on the American.

[agasfas]

i like it, some don't. LIke CDL said, it depends on the person.

[SpikeSpiegel306]

Ah i see! i am so glad I found this website, I am learning so much about culture and whatnot. So has anyone ever entered in an official or underground tournament before?

[c.t.,girl]

i ahve been in an official turnament, at least that is what we call it.

[Solid Ronin]

Do Americans enjoy martial arts then? I have never really pictured them as martial artists, but I guess thats just a misconception.

Just like CDL said it depend on the person like with everything else.

..Your a ninjutsu black Belt...In order to aquire that rank do you not have to vist Soke Hatsumi himself...if you have I envy you quite I bit...

I think it would be good If we posted why we like the martial arts? (then again perhaps everyone already has..lol.

....Ya know I dont think its really the art that interset me at first but rather the martial artist himself..Theres something to admire about someone who is devoted to a art form..Now that I'm attracted to the man or woman its then when I want to learn about there art and see exactly why they devote themselves to it.

I love to leran Kenjutsu..maybe even a bit more and ninjutsu..although I like to take both..It's hard for me to get into the training.

I suppose I'm just a side ine man....Instead of studing the art directly I study its principles and history.

Beside I'm not in good enough shape. lol

[SpikeSpiegel306]

Just like CDL said it depend on the person like with everything else.

..Your a ninjutsu black Belt...In order to aquire that rank do you not have to vist Soke Hatsumi himself...if you have I envy you quite I bit...

I think it would be good If we posted why we like the martial arts? (then again perhaps everyone already has..lol.

....Ya know I dont think its really the art that interset me at first but rather the martial artist himself..Theres something to admire about someone who is devoted to a art form..Now that I'm attracted to the man or woman its then when I want to learn about there art and see exactly why they devote themselves to it.

I love to leran Kenjutsu..maybe even a bit more and ninjutsu..although I like to take both..It's hard for me to get into the training.

I suppose I'm just a side ine man....Instead of studing the art directly I study its principles and history.

Beside I'm not in good enough shape. lol

Yes, to gain Ninjutsu Black Belt 1st degree you have to meet with Soke Hatsumi and recieve a week of personal training from him and ONLY if he thinks you are strong enough will he grant you the Black Belt...to reach the 2nd degree is extremely difficult and was very painful for me, you must go through a series of tests involving stealth drills, weapon accuracy, counter-attacks, sheer endurance, and speed drills. I will perhaps someday try for a higher Black Belt but as for now I am too busy with other art forms to continue training.

Definitely the hardest art forms I have taken thus far are Ninjutsu, Hiten Mitserughi Ryu, and Zonbattou.

As for your question relating to the reasoning behind taking martial arts. Its a nice way to make money for one thing, it is a good excerise that keep my body in good condition, and its nice if you are planning on becoming a Bounty Hunter or if the world ever reverts back to ancient civilization because of nuclear war . But most importantly, you have to enjoy it and be willing to make sacrifices to spend time on it.

[EvilSporkofDoom]

I took Tae Kwon Do for three years and am almost a blue belt (I've missed the last two sessions because of summer vacation and then first semester of college and trying to adjust, but I plan on going back soon). Even though I don't really sports at all I did like Tae Kwon Do, and I hope to be a black belt someday.