The Passion Of The Christ

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Postby RefractedAhav » Wed Feb 25, 2004 12:52 pm

Michael wrote:I won't go to see it for obvious reasons, (I.E. The second commandment) but I think it's good for people to understand how brutal crucifictions really are.


There's been a lot of talk about how this might end Mr. Gibson's career. It very well might. People hate anything like serious christianity.



I've heard that Mel is going to make one more movie, then retire and go back to Austraila.
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Postby ShiroiHikari » Wed Feb 25, 2004 1:10 pm

*shakes her head at all the negative reviews and complaints of violence she read today*
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Postby Hitokiri » Wed Feb 25, 2004 1:30 pm

i read the critique of the movi ein the paper today. The guy (who I have come to not like as a moive critique for a while now) gave it a 50/50. He liked it and didn't.

He thought that Mel went to far with the vioolence factor and that he was trying to impress people and have people who like movies such as "Texas Chainsaw Masscare" and "Kill Bill" go see this.

He wanted more of what Christ talked bout and his teachings. He didn't like that aspect that it wasn't in thier. Though he said he didn't feel impacted by the movie as everyone says cause he just didn't feel the burden that Christ endured (: eyebrow: ). He gave it a not so good review, then again, this is the guy who gave the Veggietales Movie that worst review I've ever read :eyeroll:

He said the best movie bout Christ is "The Last Temptation of Christ" where he has sex with mary magdalen :stressed:

Alot of kids are going to see this movie tonight from school cause they are intrested with all this controvery and all the stuff that's going around it. Funny in European History Class, we just finished up the movie The Patriot which stars Mel Gibson.
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Postby Zilch » Wed Feb 25, 2004 1:59 pm

>>>He said the best movie bout Christ is "The Last Temptation of Christ" where he has sex with mary magdalen <<<

ARGH! Critics...they actually made a movie about something like that? I wish Peter was here to cut their ears off...

then again...

Jesus would just put them back on...because He still loves them...despite the spit on his face...despite the scorn...and I have a song idea...excuse me...
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Postby Link Antilles » Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:03 pm

Well, I was going to go tomorrow, but it's gonna mostly likely snow down here..... well stink... hopefully, I can go saturday. I heard on the radio, the movie had a nice sound track to it.
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Postby Kireihana » Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:35 pm

Ruroken wrote:It's to bad Mel GIbson gave in, but then again he's roman catholic and not a Christian.


Whoa, hold it there. I find that offensive. Even thought I'm not Roman Catholic, I go to a Roman Catholic school. And they are every bit as Christian as you and I. They have some different beliefs, sure, but all denominations do. If you attended a Catholic service you would find that it is VERY similar many of the Protestant denominations. And to solve some of your guys' confusion, Roman Catholics DO NOT worship the saints OR Mary. They probably hold them in higher regard than Protestants do, but they by no means come before God and Jesus. So don't go bashing Mel Gibson; he's a good man and I think this is one of his goals that God meant for him to achieve.

As for the movie, I'm looking forward to seeing it. It'll be good for me. I've never cried at a movie before, but they say that this one's a real tear-jerker, and I don't doubt it....
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Postby Da Rabid Duckie » Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:01 pm

Someone posted this on G2G, I thought that it'd be relevant here.
Woman Collapses During Showing of "The Passion Of The Christ"
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A woman collapsed in an East Wichita theatre this morning, during a showing of "The Passion Of The Christ". Peggy Law apparently suffered a heart attack. She was pronounced dead a short time later at a Wichita medical center.

Peggy Law, also known to some by her married name Peggy Scott is a respected figure in the local broadcasting community. The tragedy has hit some here at KAKE especially hard. She was a former employee.

People viewing the movie at the Warren Theatre East say Law collapsed during the portion of the movie where the crucifixion of Christ was shown.

A few off-duty doctors and nurses who were in the audience tried to revive her. But when she was taken away in the ambulance, authorities say Law still had no pulse.

The movie has been criticized for it's graphic portrayal of Jesus' death. Religious leaders around the country and here in Wichita say people need to be prepared for the graphic brutality.

Whether Law's death and the timing in the film are related, we will never know, but religious and medical officials stress this film is not for the faint-hearted.


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HEART ATTACK DURING 'PASSION OF CHRIST'; WOMAN PRONOUNCED DEAD AFTER VIEWING FILM IN KANSAS
Wed Feb 25 2004 16:09:33 ET

KAKE TV in Wichita, Kansas set to report a woman, in her 50s, suffered a heart attack during a morning screening of Mel Gibson's controversial film PASSION OF THE CHRIST.

"She later died at the hospital," a station source tells the DRUDGE REPORT.

Scheduled to be lead story on the station's 5 PM news. "She went into seizure during one of the film's most dramatic moments," a station source explains.

The woman attended a 9:30am screening, first public viewing at Warren East Theaters in Wichita...


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Postby ShiroiHikari » Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:11 pm

That's too bad...-.-
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Postby Locke » Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:36 pm

seing it tonight :P
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Postby glitch1501 » Wed Feb 25, 2004 7:12 pm

i just got back, it was incredible, it did have alot of blood, but i think that its worth seeing

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Postby Six » Wed Feb 25, 2004 7:13 pm

i just saw the movie tonight and i must say... wow. i would like to address a few things ive seen floating around. if you want to nitpick at this movie and find reasons to not go see it then be my guest. but anything that was added didnt change anything from the original story. what i would like to say is this. if you go to the movie determined to nitpick at it and not let God use it in your life then you might succeed. but i went with the expectation that it would make me think some about my faith and what Christ really endured... i wasnt even close. this movie touched me in a deeply spiritual and personal way and i cant explain it except to say that i cried for 3/4 of the movie and it wasnt just the fact that i had taken so much for granted. although i realize that i did take everything for granted what God communicated to me was just His overwhelming, pure love for everyone. the fact that at any time he could have called down 10000 angels to deliver him he instead paid a terrible price to free us. thats all im going to say about it. im sure it will affect everyone in different ways but i prommise that if you do not see this movie you will be missing out in a very big way
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Postby Locke » Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:49 pm

i too saw The Passion. I just have to saw this, i cant belive how i felt the moment i left the theater, and when i got home i hugged my mom for a whole minute.

i still cant belive what He did for us how he suffered all that for our sins...
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Postby Six » Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:13 pm

im excited... im going to see it again on friday with my YG and on sunday i might go to it again with some friends. i want to see it as many times as i can in the theaters
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Postby Master Kenzo » Thu Feb 26, 2004 5:07 am

Saw it last night. It was very realistic, the best I've seen. The movie was excellently done, but it makes me mad to see what they did to Him.
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Postby cbwing0 » Thu Feb 26, 2004 6:53 am

I saw it last night, and it was excellent. I will take sometime to respond to things said by various critics:

1.The movie is not antisemitic. The movie doesn't go out of it's way to portray the Jews in a negative light.

2.Jesus' teachings are shown throughout the film. The Washington Post reviewer said that there wasn't enough of this, but that is absurd.

I won't give anything else away (not that you don't know what happens :P).
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Postby Da Rabid Duckie » Thu Feb 26, 2004 11:57 am

I saw the movie at a private screening that was booked for my church and the high school it hosts at 9:30 this morning. I was unable to speak for at least twenty minutes afterwards, and after thinking it over a great deal I returned home and wrote the following:

A glass of grape juice and a few shortbread wafers sit on the desk next to me, and I am unaware of the significance of this. I take a bite from the wafer, and suddenly I remember the words of Christ: “Take, eat. This is my body.â€
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Postby CDLviking » Thu Feb 26, 2004 1:36 pm

My Youth Group back in Phoenix bought out entire theaters and just said any teen who wants to see this movie can go for free.
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Postby Technomancer » Thu Feb 26, 2004 2:34 pm

My own thoughts on the film are that is indeed a masterpiece. In its production, its themes and its cinematography it is absolutely first rate. However, I will admit that one criticism of the film is not without some truth. Namely, that the film does not make sense as a film, in that it lacks the familiar sort of story and character development that make up a good tale. Of course, this is only a problem if you expect to be "going to the movies" and not to a passion play.

Each and every one of us here sees the film through the lens of belief and culture. We know the story; we know the whys and wherefores of it, and that's why it is a work of such tremendous power. I am forced to admit though, that those lacking such familiarity will probably be at something of a loss with regards to this film.


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Postby Rashiir » Thu Feb 26, 2004 3:52 pm

I really want to see this still... I hope I'll get to see it this weekend...

My friend saw it and he said it was great, but he thought the Book was better. :grin: :thumb:
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Postby Bobtheduck » Thu Feb 26, 2004 4:06 pm

Veronica's veil? What's that?
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Postby CDLviking » Thu Feb 26, 2004 4:56 pm

It's one of the stations of the cross. A woman named Veronica comes forth to wipe the blood and sweat from Jesus' face with her veil.
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Postby Six » Thu Feb 26, 2004 8:40 pm

i liked that scene... i thought it was great. i liked the whole movie. bottom line, if Gods hand was on this film (and it was) then as a christian i have no criticizm
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Postby Bobtheduck » Fri Feb 27, 2004 8:30 pm

I just saw it... This is the single most incredible movie I've ever seen... When Peter denied Jesus and looked into his eyes, that was me... I broke down at that moment... I didn't even notice that you didn't hear the rooster. That wasn't important. I denied Jesus and now I've seen him suffer for me. He suffered for me and I denied him in so many ways because I was scared or bored or lonely. It was so incredible... I was worried about licenses that the movie would take, or about little details I didn't agree with before I watched it, but this is silly... I get so swept up by things I don't agree with and by annoyances or small obstacles... I'm so incredibly petty... I denied him... My Lord and the person who's loved me more than any human being... I denied him...
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Postby CDLviking » Fri Feb 27, 2004 11:42 pm

That was the most incredible acting I've ever seen. There's so much I want to say, but I don't want to ruin the experience for people who haven't seen it yet. It's amazing how the crucifixion can be at once so brutally horrible and at the same time the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. When Jesus met his mother on the way to the cross, I cried more than I've ever cried in my whole life. This was not a movie about the brutallity that Jesus suffered, it was an expression of absolute love. It's unfortunate that it's so late or else I'd do it now, but the first thing I'm doing when I get back to Phoenix tomorrow is going to confession because this movie has helped me to see how wretched my sins actually are.
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Postby Shinja » Sat Feb 28, 2004 3:33 pm

i went and saw the movie, and did not like it. they added things not in the bible, and spoke nothing of the forgivness of sins, aslo i have learned a number of the lead roles are porn stars.
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Postby shooraijin » Sat Feb 28, 2004 3:39 pm

> aslo i have learned a number of the lead roles are porn stars.

All the more reason ... I hope they gained something from the experience.
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Postby Bobtheduck » Sat Feb 28, 2004 3:46 pm

Shinja wrote:i went and saw the movie, and did not like it. they added things not in the bible, and spoke nothing of the forgivness of sins, aslo i have learned a number of the lead roles are porn stars.


I hope God blesses you somehow from it anyhow.

I hope that your hatred of using different media to portray the Christian message changes soon, but that is your decission. I can't disagree with you more.
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Postby Shinja » Sat Feb 28, 2004 3:51 pm

i have nothing wrong with the media i love other movies about Jesus and i dont hate anything, i know from experiance God can use anything to reach pople, but i feel as a christian this movie was not right. and i hope it doesnt hurt anyone.
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Postby Bobtheduck » Sat Feb 28, 2004 4:14 pm

Things were put in to keep the flow of the story going. He added details that fit things that could have gone on. I think to be upset over something like that is entirely missing the point.

This movie brought people ON SET to faith in Jesus, and it brought many who watched it to faith in Jesus as well. This is the single most powerfull movie to come out about Jesus ever in history. This works better as a visual representation of Jesus suffering than anything before it. The scenes with satan were not in the Gospels because the scenese were commentary. It was commentary something that could have gone on. There were things I didn't agree with in this, but to complain about minor details ignores the fact this does show the most important parts, and better than any other film ever made.
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Postby ShiroiHikari » Sat Feb 28, 2004 4:19 pm

Also, since Mel Gibson is Catholic, there's probably some stuff from the Catholic Bible in the movie, right?

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