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Postby Cognitive Gear » Wed May 16, 2007 1:23 pm

I was browsing a gaming forum that I frequent, and found out the following:

There will be 10 main characters (FF heroes only, FF villains aren't counted)

I thin it's also safe to assume that this doesn't count unlockable characters. Some games, like SSBM have more unlockable characters than starters. I hope that is the case here.

(As with any forum information, take this with a healthy helping of skepticism. The only reason I bothered posting this here is because the information found at this forum is true more often than not)
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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Wed May 16, 2007 2:07 pm

Fish and Chips wrote:True enough, though technically he got father than Kefka did
[spoiler]Kefka - Wishes to destroy everything.
Kuja - Actually almost does destroy everything. And blows up a planet. Just for good measure.[/spoiler]

Not really.
[Spoiler]Aside from what Ikimasu said, Kefka also did succeed in destroying a lot of things, just not everything. He pretty much left the whole world in Ruin. Hence the name "The World of Ruin". That and Kefka is actually insane, and is a more appropriate "Megalomaniac". Kuja doesn't look like one XD Kuja looks more like a pretty-boy XD[/spoiler]

Depending on the reviews of the game, I may actually invest in it. While it is another reason to acquire a PSP (I really only have 2 reasons for wanting it) it really depends if it's a stellar game or not.
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Postby Bobtheduck » Wed May 16, 2007 2:16 pm

Etoh*the*Greato wrote:Kuja had more class than kefka. Looked better too. I'll take creepily effeminate over clown makeup any day. Though I will say that playing through FF6 again has made me realize I want to beat down Kefka more than I have any other FF baddy. Except maybe Seymour. That man was like a cockroach!

Kuja earns points for his witty banter.


I hate Seymour SO MUCH... Gah, he's a momma's boy just like sephy, only more twisted and not so "caring", effeminate like kuja, wants to destroy all sentient life, will never die... GAH!!! I like Sephy... I like Kefka... I really don't like Seymour... He's the most annoying FF boss that I can think of at the moment.

I wonder if he'll be in there... I'd love to beat him up with Vivi...
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Postby Fish and Chips » Wed May 16, 2007 3:46 pm

ikimasu wrote:While I will admit it has been awhile since I played FFVI, I don't think that this is a fair comparison.

[spoiler] I think that Kefka achieved his original goals. From what I remember, Kefka wanted power, and obtained it. Kefka wanted to rule the world, and he did. It was only as he was on the brink of death that he decided to destroy everything.

Whereas Kuja wanted to destroy the everything from the beginning. He failed at this. So he never met his original goals.

I could be remembering incorrectly, though. If I am, that will be a good excuse to play both games again.[/spoiler]

Regardless, I am extremely tempted to buy a PSP right now. I'd be able to play all of these games.

Mr. SmartyPants wrote:[spoiler]Aside from what Ikimasu said, Kefka also did succeed in destroying a lot of things, just not everything. He pretty much left the whole world in Ruin. Hence the name "The World of Ruin". That and Kefka is actually insane, and is a more appropriate "Megalomaniac". Kuja doesn't look like one XD Kuja looks more like a pretty-boy XD[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Both succeeded with their initial goals (Kekfa, world domination, Kuja, revenge on Garland). And in the aftermath of both of these events did both parties decide they wanted "Monument(s) to Nonexistance." Kefka didn't decide this on the brink of death, he made a declaration of his intentions to the Returners as they finally stood before him in his tower.

So both antagonists got further than pretty much every other RPG villain, by accomplishing their first goals. Their second goals were one and the same, albeit for different reasons, but therein Kuja managed to get closer to the actual destruction of the essence of life. And points for getting ahead in destruction]
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Postby Etoh*the*Greato » Thu May 17, 2007 12:28 am

ikimasu wrote:I was browsing a gaming forum that I frequent, and found out the following:

There will be 10 main characters (FF heroes only, FF villains aren't counted)

I thin it's also safe to assume that this doesn't count unlockable characters. Some games, like SSBM have more unlockable characters than starters. I hope that is the case here.

(As with any forum information, take this with a healthy helping of skepticism. The only reason I bothered posting this here is because the information found at this forum is true more often than not)

The Smash Bros comparison has been made based on the screenshots alone, hasn't it? Or do we actually have something that says that's the format?
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Postby uc pseudonym » Thu May 17, 2007 1:14 pm

Yes, that was my thought. The scan from the magazine looks as though it could be a fighting game, but that is just speculation. It isn't necessarily any more valid than the second responding post, which claims the game will be turn-based. I haven't read much on this, so perhaps there are articles that would make all this clear. Right now, though, we don't even know if the characters will span the series.

Anyway, though I much prefer RPG titles to fighting ones, I'd still be interested in this (mostly for the characters). What I would enjoy is beating up all the bishounen protagonists with Steiner. Just for the humor value.

Could Tidus and Vaan even manage to injure each other?

I'm with Doubleshadow here. Best part of the article.
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Postby Etoh*the*Greato » Fri May 18, 2007 12:06 am

What we know about the combat is that it will be a "Progessive battle" system. In the words of Destructoid... "Whatever that means."
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Postby Bobtheduck » Fri May 18, 2007 4:11 am

I HOPE this is a fighting game... I never thought it may NOT be a fighting game... I mean, to feature Final Fantasy all stars and NOT be a fighting game makes it... Well, Kingdom Hearts without the cohesiveness that made it work...

EDIT: That comment saying it was turn based was someone confusing it with Last Remnant... A lot of people have mixed the two of these up... Dissidia is a Final Fantasy spinoff, Last Remnant is a new IP... Made with Unreal 3... Which looks awful, truth be told. Made by the "bouncer" team.
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Postby Etoh*the*Greato » Fri May 18, 2007 9:48 am

Someone said it would be turnbased? Wouldn't expect that out of it. Actually, as ironic as it may be, an RPG spun off of one of the final fantasies would be the last thing I'd expect at this point.
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Postby uc pseudonym » Fri May 18, 2007 12:37 pm

The person who said it would be turn-based was just someone commenting on the article itself. Bobtheduck says he's getting his games confused, which would make sense.

Etoh*the*Greato wrote:What we know about the combat is that it will be a "Progessive battle" system. In the words of Destructoid... "Whatever that means."

That does imply a fighting game, actually, in that it seems to indicate fighting opponents progressively, one after another.
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Postby Etoh*the*Greato » Fri May 18, 2007 1:00 pm

So what we may be looking at is really another Ehrgeiz.
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Postby Debitt » Fri May 18, 2007 1:20 pm

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Definitely looks like a fighting game to me from the caps here, especially the one at the very bottom.

8) Kuja character design = love.
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Postby Cognitive Gear » Fri May 18, 2007 1:34 pm

Kokoro Daisuke wrote:8) Kuja character design = love.


I was hoping that the new design would cover more.

The Zidane design is pretty awesome, too. I want to wear those pants and those boots. *_*

Also, it does look to have some RPG elements to it, as well. In the top left picture you can see that it says "EXP Get!"
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Postby Bobtheduck » Fri May 18, 2007 1:39 pm

There ARE people who read Japanese on this site... Maybe we can hit someone up for a TRANSLATION?
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Postby Cognitive Gear » Fri May 18, 2007 2:02 pm

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Postby Fish and Chips » Fri May 18, 2007 2:25 pm

I want Zidane's daggers. Now.
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Postby Debitt » Fri May 18, 2007 6:04 pm

:lol: I'm...actually putting a couple cosplay plans on hold so I can try to get together Zidane's Dissidia outfit. 8) Complete with daggers, kthx. <3
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Postby Raiden no Kishi » Fri May 18, 2007 6:18 pm

I'm thinking . . . if Chaos is in this game, then there's a chance we could see, oh, I don't know . . . some VINCENT up in here?

That would make my day. I might actually have to buy a PSP someday.

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Postby Fish and Chips » Fri May 18, 2007 6:20 pm

Kokoro Daisuke wrote::lol: I'm...actually putting a couple cosplay plans on hold so I can try to get together Zidane's Dissidia outfit. 8) Complete with daggers, kthx. <3

I may have to revoke my marriage proposal to Corrie. Darn it.
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Postby Nate » Fri May 18, 2007 6:30 pm

Raiden no Kishi wrote:I'm thinking . . . if Chaos is in this game, then there's a chance we could see, oh, I don't know . . . some VINCENT up in here?

Wait, what does Chaos have to do with Vincent? o.O Vincent wasn't in FFI.
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Postby Bobtheduck » Fri May 18, 2007 6:56 pm

I don't think Chaos in this is necessarily Chaos from FF1, either... Just the mythological god "Chaos" Chaos is also a quasi-character in Sailor Stars, but I doubt Usagi's gonna pop in here... Though I'd have such a geek out if she did, haha, or maybe Sailor Mercury... *faints*

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Nothing to see here, I was only talking about Dissidia... Um...
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Postby Debitt » Fri May 18, 2007 7:51 pm

I highly doubt Chaos refers to the Vincent-variety myself...XD;

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Postby Etoh*the*Greato » Fri May 18, 2007 9:13 pm

Fish and Chips wrote:I want Zidane's daggers. Now.

Those are the Mage Mashers. Awesome, are they not? Partial chance to cast silence on a target. Also, Ikimasu, thanks for giving the translation.
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Postby Raiden no Kishi » Fri May 18, 2007 9:19 pm

Yeah, I thought about it not being the Chaos associated with Vincent about .5 seconds after I posted.

However, they should still have Vincent in the game, because Vincent is the man.

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Postby Bobtheduck » Sat May 19, 2007 2:03 am

Mage Mashers... Long been one of my favorite weapons on Final Fantasy... I love all status inducing weapons. Hmmm... Are there going to be status effects in this game? That would be awesome. Items? Like how far are they going to go with the RPG / Tournament fighter mix?
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Postby uc pseudonym » Sat May 19, 2007 1:09 pm

ikimasu wrote:IGN Translation of Article

Horray!

Ah, more solid information. However, it still isn't completely clear where this game will fall on the fighting/turn-based continuum. The listing of commands suggests that it won't be entirely the usual fighting game. RPG elements also appear to be retained, which is a plus for me.

Destroying pillars and other objects builds up your character's "Brave" meter, which gives you access to new attacks.

Heh. I'm so brave, smashing defenseless scenery.
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Postby Raiden no Kishi » Sun May 20, 2007 5:48 am

Didn't you know that vandalism draws out one's latent abilities, UC?

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Postby Lunis » Fri May 25, 2007 10:32 pm

That IGN description just made the game sound SO much cooler. I need it~

Kokoro Daisuke wrote:8) Oh yes indeedy. :lol: We shall fangirl this game together, methinks.


Yesh! <3 *has been squeeing all night*

UC wrote:Heh. I'm so brave, smashing defenseless scenery.


XD I was thinking something along those lines, but not in as funny a way.

Siggy pointed out to me that Kuja and Vincent must shop at the same shoe store. Those boots could poke out an eye, man.
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Postby lordoftempest » Sat May 26, 2007 11:48 am

Final Fantasy Dyslexia? What?

Oh, that must be how I feel after enduring this series for so long.
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Postby Bobtheduck » Thu May 31, 2007 5:51 pm

lordoftempest wrote:Final Fantasy Dyslexia? What?

Oh, that must be how I feel after enduring this series for so long.


You "endured" it this long, eh? Man, that's funny, generally when there are games I don't like, I just don't play them
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