Mave wrote:Now that Ikki and Ringo have fought, does that mean he doesn't have to fight SF anymore? I thought that the Sleeping Forest was the ultimate obstacle and Ikki technically defeated Ringo (kind of...). Well, they both didn't lose their emblems since they reached the goal together. Is he planning to have another showdown with Ringo in the future?
Mave wrote:I am officially confused as to who the players are in this battle.
Mave wrote:What is your view on Agito/Akito's brother? I can't decide whether to like him or not. Once moment, he seems like a caring brother, the next moment he's blowing holes in his brother. Is this because he cares for Akito but hates Agito?
Mave wrote:Maybe I missed this but how did Agito get into Akito?
uc pseudonym wrote:My thought was that since he pretended it was a tie (though it's probably fair, given that she'd have won if she just left him behind instead of messing around)
Basically, it is just Ikki's team versus Sleeping Forest. I don't know if there are any unaffiliated Kings, but almost all of them are in one of those two teams. The enforcement people (ie Akito's brother) might also be serious players.
With the exception of members of Tool Toul To (the tuner/mechanic people) essentially all the important characters are in one of the two big teams.
Right now I believe it is all an act (as per what he said after allowing Akito to leave following the truck scene). You could argue that he was using this excuse to hide his real compassion for his brother.
I almost consider Ringo's Crazy Apple as an alter-ego.When his brother forced him to fight so many AT teams, Akito created an alter ego Agito to be the "evil side" and shield him from all the violence. This gets explained during the arc where Ikki's team fights Behemoth.
Mave wrote:Didn't she mess around for a good reason? I thought she was protecting him from this god of death thingy <--- oh yes, another thing I don't understand. If she didn't mess around, what would have happened to Ikki?
Mave wrote:So technically, there are kings spread out across both teams, you mean. OK, got it.
Mave wrote:- What is the most bizarre character in AT for you so far? I want to award that to the character who has the metal body, generates ghostly illusions and has little kids running around him. Hehehehe...... well, ok that other insect/bug-looking dude was also weird.
Mave wrote:- To you, is the actual goal/target clear of what our 'heroes' are seeking clear? To me, all it seems like is having the right to stand on top of that tower and say, Hooyeah!
Mave wrote:OT: I had a closer look at Tenjo Tenge yesterday. TT has so much more fanservice than AG.........
uc pseudonym wrote:Uncertain. My impression, however, is that it was meant more generally. She felt that unless she made Ikki give up his dream, it would eventually bring him into contact with aforementioned god of death.
If you want it laid out in immense detail: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kings_and_Roads_%28Air_Gear%29
Nue (the little kid guy) probably wins that, yeah. But characters that are simply weird don't interest me all that much. Do you have any favorites so far?
Unless a greater plot is revealed, it strikes me as the generic shonen motivation: they want to be the best at whatever the manga is about. I have no idea how it will end, because the mangaka has never actually finished a significant manga of this sort.
Does it? TT's is much more graphic than AG, but the latter has always struck me as having pretty consistent fanservice. As interesting as Crazy Apple was, I couldn't take her that seriously because she felt like one giant excuse for fanservice.
Mave wrote:I still don't understand why Ikki will encounter the god of death with the power he's sorting for. Maybe he's not ready for it?
Mave wrote:I barely have any memories of the Gem and Rumble King.
Mave wrote:Favourites? It's kinda hard to pick but if I had to, I guess the male character would be Fang King, just because the two personalities are so different (amusingly sometimes) and he/they fights pretty well, if I remember correctly.
Mave wrote:As for the female character, I think BenKei is my fav. at this point although she didn't have to fight in those strange cowboy-like pants, which covers up everything except for the most important parts (sigh). That outfit reminded me of Christina Agilera's 'Dirty' MTV, which is not a good thing. But fighting-skill and personality-wise, she's quite a good supporting character.
Mave wrote:Ah? You mean he has never completed a manga series yet? I thought Tenjo Tenge (which I assume he started first before AG) would be over by now...
uc pseudonym wrote:To be honest, I barely remember this part. What did she say, specifically? I probably shouldn't talk further before I'm sure on particulars.
That happens a lot, doesn't it? We end up preferring any other character over the main protagonist. But yeah, I never liked Ikki and don't understand why Ringo likes him.Myself, I like Kazu for some reason. He just seems better than Ikki to me overall.
I'd like to say Sano, but sadly the mangaka decided to turn him into a flaming homosexual. If you remove the "comedy" scenes with him, though, he seems an ordinary human being and very competent ATer, like he did as a member of Behemoth. Plus, the only time we've seen him serious in a fight he smashed a motorcycle over someone's head. How cool is that?
Mave wrote:Actually, I've decided not to follow up on this. It's Ok. There are so many questions floating around in AirGear and Tenjo Tenge, that I think maybe it's wiser not to bother.
Mave wrote:But yeah, I never liked Ikki and don't understand why Ringo likes him.
Mave wrote:but I don't like how he chose to put the flashback right in the middle of Aya's fight with that eh...swords guy and worm gal (I don't remember their names).
uc pseudonym wrote:I'm going to go with "because he's the protagonist."
Switching manga, are we? No problem, it just took me off guard in mid-sentence. I don't like this development either. TT does not need more flashbacks. The one in Air Gear I can accept. It might finally explain some things.
MasterDias wrote:Well, a lot of these last couple volumes have been pretty dramatic reversals really. Were there ever any hints earlier that Sora was an evil, manipulating jerk, and not the friendly, helpful guy in the wheelchair he always appeared to be?
Mave wrote:Even more so, now that I know what happens in the end [spoiled myself with wikipedia fufufu] so I'm more than willing to skip the fight.
Mave wrote:Ok, Sora's character change was too drastic for me. MasterDias, as far as I can remember, there was NO indication of his real character before. In the flashback, I don't understand what all the other characters saw in him enough to make them turn to him against Kilik. Is Sora that charismatic?
Mave wrote:- To you, is the actual goal/target clear of what our 'heroes' are seeking clear? To me, all it seems like is having the right to stand on top of that tower and say, Hooyeah!
"The End. Thank you for reading AirGear."
Mave wrote:I'm generally not too pleased with what happened to Spitfire and Aeon Clock since I thought both of them were among the few interesting and likeable characters in AG. Sigh....
MyrrhLynn wrote:My favorite male characters either die or never get the girl. :\
Perhaps the main characters will end up against everyone.
What I do like are the most recent chapters, which can basically be summarized as "Ikki doesn't matter."
As of Chapter 166 he retires from Air Gears and becomes a gourmet chef, leading the manga to abruptly become a comedy.
I support fanfiction featuring Spitfire and AeonClock appearing towards the end where Ikki is getting his behind kicked by [insert identified and confirmed bad guy] and winning along side a more matured/skilled Kazu. All of them decide that the thrill of reaching the top of the tower and going HooYeah is overrated and really isn't that important in life. So, they destroy the tower and all the regalias or better still, disenable those gadgets and sell them off ebay as funky high end rollerblades at a pretty little price.My favorite male characters either die or never get the girl. :\
Did someone say fanfiction?
My hope is that Kazu will eventually become as cool as them, which would be a small consolation.
Kilik hasn't struck me as a good guy at all, but Sora obviously seems to be set up as the villain (though I'm not convinced he isn't just being cruel to Ikki to motivate him). Perhaps the main characters will end up against everyone.
When did Akira get beat up? I missed that.
Maybe I need to read these chapters over again...
h? As far as I remember, the only time he got beaten up is in his dual with Ikki in the Behemoth arc
Mave wrote:I know what you mean but what worries me is the future chapters become "Ikki matters ahecka LOT more now that the cool characters who would have been on his side are now dead. Looks like it's up to Ikki to save the day, folks! Whee!"
MasterDias wrote:Yeah, I'm still convinced Kogarasumaru will go up against Sleeping Forest at some point.
uc pseudonym wrote:Perhaps the main characters will end up against everyone.
mechana2015 wrote:I actually suspect that it may not be over, but is a midpoint battle, (the likely
upcoming trophaem tower fight), since there still is the issue of where the gravity children are being made (Ringo et. al.) meaning most likely another tower, probably bigger meaner and tougher than the trophaem.
Mave wrote:All of them decide that the thrill of reaching the top of the tower and going HooYeah is overrated and really isn't that important in life.
Oh yes. Sure. Like that is going to happen!uc pseudonym wrote:Alternately, it'd be much better if the tournament was interrupted and we move to a less formulaic plot.
MyrrhLynn wrote:So I wouldn't be suprised if this series more or less ends with a tournament. Although now that I think about it a tournament is kind of a dumb idea.
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