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Postby uc pseudonym » Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:02 pm

This happened with Hellsing, too. Apparently the sources I use do a bad job of numbering chapters by volume (they have some of the 40s listed as in volume 6).
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Postby Alexander » Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:48 pm

Full Moon Volume 2.

I got is as a gift from my brother for my birthday!
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Postby jon_jinn » Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:39 pm

Monster volume 6.
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Postby uc pseudonym » Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:59 pm

Rose Hip Zero Volume 2
Sword of Wah Volume 1

The former always strikes me as odd because I'm not used to seeing GTO-style art without fanservice. The latter I read because it has the funniest title I've heard this week.
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Postby jon_jinn » Thu Aug 23, 2007 4:24 pm

uc pseudonym wrote:Rose Hip Zero Volume 2


i was also quite skeptical about the title when i first decided to try it. however, Tohru's character designs have always stood out to me and the series seemed interesting in a way...there happens to be a prequel to the Rose Hip Zero series, called Rose Hip Rose. it is four volumes long and is a lot more graphic than Zero. anyhow, i just finished Monster volume 7.
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Postby Nikolai Melodie » Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:39 am

Hellsing (volume 8 is here <3)
King of Bandit: Jing/ Twilight Tales


I'm also reading Death Note, however, I find I like to spend a little more time on that one...the art and story are just too much love to skip through =O! Problematically, I lack time, so the entire series is on my shelf...and I'm not reading it at the moment x.x
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Postby uc pseudonym » Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:32 pm

jon_jinn wrote:however, Tohru's character designs have always stood out to me and the series seemed interesting in a way...there happens to be a prequel to the Rose Hip Zero series, called Rose Hip Rose.

I've read that as well. It's really more like an extended one-shot followed by a series, at least that is how it seems to me. Rose Hip Zero seems likely to become equally graphic is we meet more characters with blades, but it's well within tolerable levels. It is nice to see that GTO's author can actually create a decent story.
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Postby EricTheFred » Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:41 pm

I've started in on 'Ghost Hunt' after thoroughly enjoying the Anime. Read volumes 1&2 thus far. Also started on 'Brain Powered', also vols 1&2.

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Postby jon_jinn » Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:39 pm

uc pseudonym wrote:It is nice to see that GTO's author can actually create a decent story.


i actually found GTO to be a good manga. if it weren't for all the fan service, crude/sex-related humor, and swearing, the series would've turned out to be a lot better. either way though, i thought the story was good, the characters were very likable, and the manga mixed humor with drama brilliantly.

anyways, i just read Claymorre volume 3. with the introduction of what seems to be another major character, i have a feeling that the series is going to be quite epic. in a way, the series somewhat reminds me of Berserk.
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Postby ~darkelfgirl~ » Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:04 pm

I'm reading Death Note for the first time, hehe. Strange, I have to admit.
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Postby Mr. Rogers » Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:25 pm

I just finished Trigun and am now working on One Piece. I still need to finish Excel Saga, too >_>
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Postby Fish and Chips » Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:10 pm

I've actually heard GTO is a good and hilarious series. At his rate, I'll have to check it out for myself.
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Postby KeybladeWarrior » Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:08 pm

Reading Rurouni Kenshin vol. 10
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Postby jon_jinn » Sat Aug 25, 2007 10:11 am

Fish and Chips wrote:I've actually heard GTO is a good and hilarious series. At his rate, I'll have to check it out for myself.


yeah. it's good stuff. definitely "R" material though. a lot of sexual material, swearing, and fan service. but good, nonetheless. probably one of my top 10 mangas. if you want it cleaner, watch the anime.

anyways, i just finished Monster volume 8.
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Postby uc pseudonym » Sat Aug 25, 2007 1:53 pm

For the record, I disliked GTO enough to not finish it. The humor really didn't work for me and I didn't feel it had enough substance otherwise. But that's me and plenty of people do like it.

EricTheFred wrote:BTW, I just about fell over laughing at Borders yesterday. I noticed a rack of SAT/ACT preparation materials, which included two TOKYOPOP American Manga titles. They've released special versions of Van Von Hunter #1 and PsyComm #1 each with 300 vocabulary words highlighted and defined for the students! I had no idea that mangaka were such an erudite assemblage of literati!

Wow, that's... notable. I can't remember any real vocabulary words from either of those volumes, unless some of PsyComm's technobabble is more real than I recall.

Continuing to read individual chapters of many series, due to a site being back up and my SJ arriving today. Notable is a good bit of Superior Volume 4, which continues to walk the line between brilliant and irritating. We'll see.
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Postby Syreth » Sun Aug 26, 2007 1:41 am

I'm currently slowly making my way through Bleach. I'm on volume 8 (I think). Also, I'm reading Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle as it comes out. :3
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Postby Knives » Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:25 pm

I haven't read a manga since April....
I just don't really care for it that much anymore. :(
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Postby Radical Dreamer » Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:32 pm

FINALLY finished the following:

Monster vol. 12
FullMetal Alchemist vol. 10

Starting on Monster vol. 13. XD
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Postby jon_jinn » Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:34 pm

Knives wrote:I haven't read a manga since April....
I just don't really care for it that much anymore. :(


well, looking at your avatar, i could suggest that you catch up on the Berserk volume(s) that you've missed out on since April...
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Postby Radical Dreamer » Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:33 am

Monster vol. 13, 14, and 15.

I'm finding that, as I come closer to the end of this series, it's getting better and better and I'm having a harder time putting it down. XD
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Postby jon_jinn » Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:48 am

i haven't had much time to read manga since i picked up Maple Story; however, i just finished volume 9 of Monster yesterday.
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Postby uc pseudonym » Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:05 am

Breath of Fire

Fun game, poor adaptation, as per the usual. The pacing is terribly quick but I don't have too much of it.
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Postby Radical Dreamer » Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:59 pm

...

I just read vols. 16-18 of Monster.

Holy crap. XD
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Postby Okami » Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:07 pm

Monster vol. 2, currently

EDIT: Volume 3 now C=
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Postby Elycien » Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:40 am

Just finished the first volume of Tsubasa <3 And now I'm re-reading Tokyo Mew Mew. I'd already read the first three or so, now I'm going back and reading the whole series. ^_^
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Postby Puguni » Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:44 am

Hitman Reborn! *cries like a baby because it's so GOOD*
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Postby Gypsy » Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:28 pm

Gothic Sports vol 1.
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Postby jon_jinn » Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:05 pm

Prince of Tennis volume 21
Hunter x Hunter volume 16
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Postby kryptech » Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:17 pm

Bleach vol 20, Fullmetal Alchemist vol 14
It looks like the current Bleach story arch is coming to a close... As for FMA, "Father" sure is an unusual character - healing, indifferent, coldly diabolical?
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Postby uc pseudonym » Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:20 pm

You're reading some good volumes right now. That is one of the most critical points in Bleach and the one that actually made me care about the series more than as an idle shonen. Father is also one of the most interesting FMA characters and I thought the chapters in which he is introduced are some of the best.
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