CephasWhite (post: 1353382) wrote:Paranormal Activity.
I might hold a review about it soon, just so you all know.
It was good.
Azier the Swordsman (post: 1353383) wrote:Is it as scary as all the trailers claim? I have a hard time finding any horror film capable of making me even remotely close to being on the edge of my seat.
That's very close to my thoughts on the film. I notice about Japanese horror films (the American remake was done by Takashi Shimizu, who directed the original Ju-on) that precisely because they rarely show on-screen violence in favor of psychological suspense terror, they don't mind being a bit campy in showing the results of violence or with their plots. Certainly this is the case with films like Uzumaki ("Spiral") and Audition. I notice Shimizu has a distinct talent for ruthlessly exposing the ineffectiveness of our electronic security blankets, which combined with the declining status of, and anger against, Americans in a globalized age form two major subtexts of the film. I also admired the way the film brought Japanese folklore and theater surrounding the onryo and applied it to contemporary contexts of violence against women, a very serious international issue effecting one in three women worldwide, according to UNIFEM, even as it remains a relatively cloak and dagger form of patriarchal coercion. For those not in the know, onryo are vengeful female ghosts seeking retribution for fatal ill-treatment, typically at the hands of their husbands, although their furious modus operandi often wipes out innocent bystanders in the process (yes, these stories exemplify the wild, irrational side of rage). I remember slightly embarrassing my horror movie instructor -- at least, I think she was embarrassed, the way she had locked herself into the ice queen stereotype made it very difficult to read her reactions -- when I pointed this out. At the time, she was holding this thesis that Japanese horror's interest in feminine monstrosity was a new and sudden thing catalyzed by a culture shift toward a greater number of female births, so that 'suddenly, little girls are scary.' To be sure, Japanese horror absorbs much of the culture shock surrounding changing gender roles with, in my view, the directors occupying the no-man's land between patriarchal traditionalism and outright feminism. Here in America, I think much of the appeal of Japanese horror has owed to its approach to gender and technology, as well as its fashionable revival of Gothic horror and the aesthetics of terror by way of the cultural mystique of orientalism. That being said, The Grudge is a film that has had a lasting influence on my over the last couple of years, and combined with The Ring has solidified my confidence in the contemporary viability and relevance of Gothic horror.ich1990 (post: 1353601) wrote:The Grudge
Well, I didn't find nearly as scary as I expected. I thought it showed way to much of the actual Grudge too early and didn't leave nearly enough to imagination. Once I can see the danger, the greatest fear, that of the unknown, is lost. Of course, The Grudge tried to make up for it with endless jump moments (which got a bit predictable after a while) and even a misplaced jaw (again, showing too much). It just felt a little campy to be honest. Also, the ending. What the heck was up with it? I mean, that's it? It feels.... incomplete.
The non-linear structure was pretty cool, though. I liked how the movie gave you no visual cues when it went through a time skip. It really kept the viewer on their toes and made them pay much more attention to the movie than they probably would have otherwise. Also, although it was not consistently so, I found some scenes to be very freaky. The death rattle and cat noises were also used to great effect. I imagine someone who is a little more prone to horror movies would overlook some of the more ridiculous portions and find The Grudge sufficiently scary. It certainly tried hard, I will give it that.
ich1990 (post: 1353601) wrote:I imagine someone who is a little more prone to horror movies would overlook some of the more ridiculous portions and find The Grudge sufficiently scary.
Yep, sounds like Takashi Shimizu landed his point in the most direct fashion possible. Having ruthlessly exposed the inefficacy of our modernist electronic security blankets against the supernatural threat, he goes for the jugular and takes out the original security blanket. In psychoanalytic terms, this should not surprise us, as the desire to curl up in the fetal position under the womblike "safety" of the blanket when faced with danger also implies the returning menace of the devouring archaic mother. I wouldn't worry too much about laughing horror fans. A lot of people laugh about things that really bother them, and for different reasons. In my experience, even most horror fans have a particular segment of the genre that they will not watch, that really bothers them, and that they will react violently against. With my friend Meg, it's zombies, because she attended a screening of Night of the Living Dead where a bunch of rowdy boys cheered on the zombies as they tore women to pieces. Actually, after getting taken to task by feminists for gender stereotypes in this, his directorial debut, George A. Romero has been one of the most gender-conscious auteurs in the horror genre. My friend Amy, meanwhile, loves zombies, but can't handle horror films with an occult menace for fear of real demonic influence through these means. Naturally, we've had a good discussion about Rupolph Otto's theories in The Idea of the Holy, where I pointed out such elements of the taboo ("charged with power") are not properly demonic, but daemonic in the sense they are a symbolically unmapped heterogeneous mixture of benevolent and hostile powers. In all cases of Christian horror spectatorship, I recommend an approach of courage through grace as a way of dealing with the material we are presented. Regrettably, this is precisely what I have not seen in my current experience watching horror films with women, observing they frequently resort to the fifth look ("look away"), and, to date, two hysterical breakdowns. I do not blame this tendency on some essentialist idea of 'the way women are', but upon our culture's failure to engender the virtue of courage in women as a way of encouraging patriarchal submission. So too, I look forward to the opportunity to watch horror with some gutsier ladies. As such, if you can work on building up your courage rather than simply internalizing the idea that you are a "wimp", I'm sure you will find the horror genre to be well worth your while. Indeed, it will help you to understand God's grace in a way you never knew.the_wolfs_howl (post: 1354326) wrote:*raises hand* Yup, that's me. I think the reason I found the movie so scary was because it never let you feel safe. The most traumatizing part, I think, was with the blanket. Going under the covers is supposed to make you feel safe, but I couldn't even look under there for a long time afterward. Nor could I take a shower without a shudder or two. Maybe I'm just a wimp, but I like being able to be scared thoroughly rather than just laugh like many horror movie fans seem to.
In the present discussion, we are talking about the American film The Grudge. For future reference, if we are talking about the Japanese original, we should refer to it as Ju-on, the original Japanese title and the title it was marketed with here in the 'States. I also saw Dark Water, and rather liked it.Warrior 4 Jesus (post: 1354472) wrote:Are you guys talking about The Grudge, the Japanese original or the American remake? I've seen the original and it was creepy as anything. Especially the blanket scene and the staircase scene towards the end. Oh gosh!
The American remake of The Ring was very good, although I haven't seen the original.
I watched Dark Water. I've seen both versions but I actually enjoyed the American remake over the original (in almost all cases). One 'reveal' was announced too early on and killed some of the suspense or creepiness. But again, this movie terrified me!
Htom Sirveaux (post: 1355332) wrote:I just finished watching The Machinist. Wow. That was great. It's kinda like Lost Highway, if Lost Highway made a shred of sense.
ich1990 (post: 1353355) wrote:Continuing on in my tour of PG-13 horror (well, this one is more like suspense) movies.
The Others
It was very, very good. Complaint first, though. At times I thought the music swelled at the wrong times leading one to believe something was about to happen then..... nothing. This could be used to great effect but wasn't, at least in my opinion.
Now the good parts. Since Ghost and I have been discussing the role of main protagonists in these sorts of films, I would like to point to Grace Stewart (Nicole Kidman's character) as a shining example of everything I could ask for in such a role. She made an effort to behave logically and not succumb to fear (although the logical world was being pulled out from underneath her)]Of course there is also the twist ending, which I approve of. Although, I have to say that sometimes I find the more subtle twists are more effective than the earth shattering ones.[/spoiler]
Finally, I should mention that this film derides the director's version of the Catholic faith pretty directly. I am not Catholic, so I don't know how accurate his view of it is, but I got the feeling it was a good ways off.
Overall, I was very impressed with this movie. If you like Victorian mysteries or nuanced psychological thrillers, you should really go watch this movie. It is definitely worth it.
ShiroiHikari (post: 1355614) wrote:The Others is one of my favorite films. It's a great period piece (though it actually takes place just after World War II rather than Victorian times), it's moody and suspenseful, and the ending is actually moving rather than just being a twist for the sake of a twist. Nicole Kidman really gained my respect as an actress because of this film, too.
Bobtheduck wrote:I was watching it in my old dorm (in 2005) and had one of my roommates tell me it was "A ripoff of Fight Club" (this was before I saw Fight Club)
Bobtheduck wrote:I think the Machinist was a great story. It's one of those movies that sort of feels like Silent Hill, and was similar to SH2 in part of the story, even...
GhostontheNet (post: 1356051) wrote:Tonight I watched Northanger Abbey.
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