rocklobster (post: 1385396) wrote:you won't find it, Wolf. They were made for TV movies, which rarely wind up on DVD or VHS. Sorry.
Wolf-man (post: 1385943) wrote:I have been reading "A Study In Scarlet" and am close to finishing it. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle is one of the best authors I have ever read. This is the first time I have read a Sherlock Holmes novel and I absolutely love it. Sherlock Holmes is a freaking genius! His deduction methods are way ahead the time. It's amazing to think that Doyle was able to devise these methods to write about. I mean the forensic methods are purely genius. I love Sherlock Holmes. He is awesome!
ich1990 wrote:On the Colbert interviews.... From what I can tell there are two main types of debates. The first is when you try to convince your opponent that your view is correct (a Socratic dialog for instance). These involve friendly dialog, mutual willingness to put aside emotions and focus on facts, logic, etc. The other type is where you try to convince your audience that your view is correct. You know that your opponent will never believe you, so you do your best to make him look dumb and logic gives way to mudslinging. If you can't actually convince any of your opponent's followers, at least you can make your own feel better about themselves. I am sure I don't have to tell you which type of debate is more lively and frequently televised. Part of the reason why I found those Colbert interviews so humorous is that they acknowledge that the debate is for show and even makes fun of the fact that this debate is of the second category (Colbert tells Ehrman, "I believe that the Bible is the totally inerrant word of God. Now, let's have a reasonable discussion."). Also, even taking out the celebrities, that is a lot of Colbert interviews.
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uc pseudonym (post: 1384733) wrote:Even though I might disagree with the authors about some kinds of effectiveness, I will admit they are completely right about the way books need to be today. That's mildly depressing.
Esoteric wrote:Would it be possible for you to summarize their position on contemporary book format, or is it too involved?
I see. I haven't read the book, but I would guess that this impression most likely came from their stressing the importance of including a 'hook' and using good pacing. Still, I agree that's a slight over-generalization. The nature of the audience is largely effected by the genre that interests them. Someone who likes thrillers generally wants to see quick clear cut developments to stay interested. Someone reading romance novels more than likely wants melodrama by the bucket-full. But science fiction is a genre that strongly focuses on ideas and contemplation, and it has a very large audience. I'm tempted to say that in modern western society, it's the people who don't read books who are usually more impatient, self-absorbed and melodramatic, but that's an overgeneralization too.Their entire position would be a bit more than I want to attempt, but I can explain the general things they said that inspired my comment. Let me be clear that I don't want to make it seem like it isn't a very good book on self-editing. Still, a lot of the book has the subtle implication that modern readers are impatient, self-absorbed, and want melodramatic dialogue instead of challenging ideas.
That's very interesting, and quite ironic considering that fact that I just recently started paying attention to how dialog is tagged. Someone recently said that using descriptive tags like 'he hissed' or 'she grumbled' is generally not considered good writing. So I looked back at the last few short stories I'd read and sure enough, they all pretty much only used 'said' when tagging. It hadn't bothered me, I hadn't even noticed the repetition, so for me it really was 'invisible'.Also included in my opinion are some pet peeves, like the fact that majority opinion seems to be that "said" is invisible, whereas the word has always struck me as painfully sticking out of narratives.
rocklobster (post: 1387347) wrote:I will be starting Lord Sunday, the final book in Garth Nix's Keys to the Kingdom series.
rocklobster (post: 1388742) wrote:Will start the first book in the Artemis Fowl series soon.
uc pseudonym (post: 1389804) wrote:The Language of God by Francis Collins
I like Francis Collins, so I'm surprised that I hadn't ever read his book before. My feelings after reading it are strangely nuanced: people well read in genetics or theology probably won't get a great deal out of it, but 90% of the people debating these subjects in the public square really need to read the book.
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