It's kind of interesting that you say that, because I'm realizing now that while Children of the Bottle keeps a lot of the same flow and prose, it really isn't like a typical Narita story because it's focused on a relatively small cast of like, eight people total, and while it's really good and I'd love to see it animated, it doesn't feel like The Rolling Bootlegs or The Grand Punk Railroad in terms of plot.blkmage (post: 1490553) wrote:Managed to finish DRRR!!x4 while I was travelling downtown today. I don't know if it's because it's been a while since I've watched or read Durarara or if it's more clear in text, but Narita Ryohgo is a friggin' master of launching a thousand unrelated plot threads and tying them together again.
Atria35 (post: 1491570) wrote:Akira 2-4- and they attempted to put this in a movie? Dear goodness, why?! It's far too complex to ever be able to be coherent and good in that form. I guess I'll have to watch the movie for comparison, but... MAN! It's awesome, though.
Hats wrote:"Frodo! Cast off your [s]sins[/s] into the fire!"
wildpurplechild (post: 1491907) wrote:Undertown Vol 1 It's a fantasy for children and teens were a boy named Sama finds a mysterious world were furmen (similar to furries) are at war with big insects. All the while Sama is trying to find a magic stone to take back to his own world to save his father. I liked it, and own it. I can't seem to find the second volume at the library, but I do want to keep reading.
Mr. Hat'n'Clogs wrote:So I guess I should stop putting off talking about Monster.
You're alright, man. You're alright.Mr. Hat'n'Clogs wrote:*That said, if Urasawa made it about Grimmer instead of Tenma it would probably be my Favorite Thing Ever.
I have gone to bat for Monster before and I am tempted to do so again, but you make me wonder what I would think about the series if I revisited it. I read Monster during a time when I didn't know about any other real "intelligent" manga or series where intellect was really valued. As a consequence I enjoyed it greatly. The same thing happened with Death Note. Neither are a perfect series, but compared to the usual fare, they were so different than the others that I couldn't help but overrate them. Now that I have read things like FMA and JoJo's and Urasawa's other works, I am starting to realize that there are things that are good and intelligent all throughout the manga world. The things I once loved are starting to pale compared to this new, broader world of great and daring writing. Monster is a great series, but maybe not as great as I once thought.Mr. Hat'n'Clogs (post: 1492202) wrote:I probably wouldn't be so down on this manga if people weren't everywhere proclaiming how good it is. I have mentioned before that I am tired of people elevating Monster over other things because of its genre and style rather than how good it is. I can think of a lot of anime and manga that I think are better written and executed than Monster but people would dismiss as more lighthearted fare. How many people are really going to bat for Kamichu! or Yotsuba&! over Monster, even though both series are plagued by much fewer problems, but hey, they involve cute girls rather than serious and complex stories so Monster is the better product. It's an attitude that's been starting to get on my nerves.
[SIZE="1"]*That said, if Urasawa made it about Grimmer instead of Tenma it would probably be my Favorite Thing Ever.[/SIZE]
I would never say that ambition is by any means bad, I mean, I just made a thread about The Tatami Galaxy trying to get people to go watch it because I would like to reward ambition, and I think Masaaki Yuasa is shows both ambition and talent in The Tatami Galaxy. I do, however, dislike the idea that both ambition and certain genres are mutually exclusive.ich1990 (post: 1492322) wrote:A Caveat:
That all being said, I don't agree with you entirely. You mention, for instance, that a story should be judged on quality, not genre or story type. I don't agree. There are some story types and genres that are so much more difficult to work in or are so much more promising that even a story of marginal quality within such a category is better than a perfectly executed one in a lesser setting. Think about it: which trick do you think is better, a well executed ollie, or a 720 with a wobbly landing? Which demonstrates more skill? Which is more exciting to see? Likewise, which would you say is the better show, a well executed high school girl comedy or a mystery involving the 1930's mafia, a runaway train, and alchemy? What if I said that the latter had character development problems? Wouldn't you still rather see something that hasn't been tried before over something that has its routine down because it is ripping off a million predecessors that have done the same thing already?
Therefore:
Maybe genre doesn't matter so much, but ambition sure does and Monster has ambition in spades.
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