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Postby The Grammarian » Fri Aug 26, 2005 4:32 pm

I haven't read Chobits or Negima, but I have read Love Hina and what's been translated so far of Ai Yori Aoshi.

Of the LH cast, my favorite's definitely Motoko Aoyama, followed by Mutsumi.
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Postby Hitokiri » Fri Aug 26, 2005 4:51 pm

Motoko is cool and all however she is a very stereotypical character. And even though she changes dramarically near the end, it was to late to save her from bieng a fav of mine. I do like her in the anime alot though.

One person that I surpisingly liked was Kanako. She just... I don't know....revolting character wise, stereotypical but intresting at the same time.

Negima is a intresting series and after a few vols, it defiently set it apart from bieng a LH clone. Here's a s good site with Negima Info with some bios I wrote:

Negima Character Bios
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Postby The Last Bard » Fri Aug 26, 2005 6:53 pm

I guess I'm going to have to go with Naru as my favorite character...She's just cool!

(Shao, I was going to say something about "If you have a problem looking at Barbies with out clothes on then stay AWAY from this manga!"
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Glad someone's else feels okay with LH!
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Postby Hitokiri » Fri Aug 26, 2005 7:23 pm

Seta and Haruka is up there, actually Haruka and Mitsumi ties for 3rd place.
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Postby uc pseudonym » Sat Aug 27, 2005 10:00 am

Aaron wrote:So feel free to correct me on ANYTHING that I said and I’ll apologize and think about it and most likely use it to make myself a better person.


This isn't really a deep moral objection, but I did think it worth noting. When responding to a large thread, it helps to quote specifically what you are responding to, or at least use a name. For example:

The Last Bard wrote:And as far as some of you saying you wouldn’t recommend it to anyone? Who are you to say what someone ..You can’t judge a book by the pages you’ve flipped through in a should and shouldn’t read. And you just said that you flipped through it at the bookstorefew seconds.
You should have said that you wouldn’t recommend it to anyone with a problem with nudity or lusting of the heart and mind.


I don't believe I said it in this thread, but I have said it in the past. However, because your comment stands by itself, I have no way of knowing if you are referring to me.

In response to what you said (but not taking it personally), I would point out that a person has every right to recommend or not recommend whatever they want. A recommendation is just a personal opinion, after all. They don't have a right to condemn someone else just for reading it or try to prevent them from reading what they want (unless they are in a guiding role, such as a parent).

The Last Bard wrote:If they want hentai they can go read hentai, not go read Love Hina.


I don't think you understand (or, at least, that is what I am led to believe from this statement) quite how perversion works. Not everyone who uses anime for twisted reasons wants to watch straight hentai.
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Postby The Last Bard » Sat Aug 27, 2005 9:31 pm

UC, I was not talking about you.

When I said stuff about hentai I was mostly talking about what Shao Feng-Li said in his post.

so why is the,line drawn at hentai? I mean you all say watching something isn't a sin. Why is the line drawn there?


Ren Sama:

EVIL MANGA! ALMOST AS EVIL AS ...Kare Kano....*shudder*
(I actually don't know if Ren is serious or not...)

I found this to be telling people to stay away from it.

Cephas:

STAY AWAY FROM THE MANGA! It's inundated with fanservice and almost "soft-core pornography."


UC:

I don't think you understand (or, at least, that is what I am led to believe from this statement) quite how perversion works. Not everyone who uses anime for twisted reasons wants to watch straight hentai.


I guess I don't understand perversion fully. But I do know that the lust of the flesh is a hard thing to satisfy. And more than likely you will eventully want more if you're using anime for "Twisted reasons"
(But this is just my take on it)
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Postby Mave » Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:43 am

When we caution others about this title, I believe that it is out of love and concern. Love Hina (like many other titles out there) has fanservice, which has the potential of encouraging lust. I speak on personal experience that if you allow small seeds into your life, it can rapidly grow into a tree before you even know it. For that reason, I have to avoid some titles like the plague even if it just has small traces of something tempting. But such is the case for myself.

Now, this is not meant to be condemnation for those who enjoy Love Hina without any spiritual side-effects. If you enjoy that type of humor and you are blessed with immunity against fanservice, by all means, have fun while being thoughtful of other ppl's spiritual needs. But if you know that fanservice affects you in some way AND still continue indulging in it, be ready to account for the consequences that befall yourself and those whom end up stumbling after you. Ultimately, it's your choice and you're responsible of it. *nods*

Really, we are just watching out for each other. :cool:
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Postby Knives » Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:51 am

whoa, I made this thread like a year or two ago...
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Postby Shao Feng-Li » Sun Aug 28, 2005 10:26 am

Amen to that Mave. I've said a lot of silly things, but it was only because I wanted to watch out for everyone.
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Postby The Last Bard » Sun Aug 28, 2005 12:05 pm

Yeah, I guess you guys are right. It just seemed like some of the previous posters were calling it just so bad.
And it didn't seem like they were giving any really good reasons why everyone should stay away from it. (Why should someone who can ignore the fanservice stay away)
But enough of this talk, on to better things.

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Postby Wild Eagle » Sat Sep 03, 2005 6:01 pm

I've been watching this thread for a while now since I finished reading Love Hina on the Internet in July. I do have some stuff to add but seeing that the whole debate is solved I'll keep it to myself :).

I enjoyed Love Hina because of the story, art and characters. My favorite characters would have to be:

1. Motoko
2. Shinobu
3. Mutsumi

Motoko was just cool (I know...I have a bias towards samurai type characters :sweat: ). I kinda liked her no-nonsense personality in the begining but towards the end I liked her even more when she underwent that dramatic change in her personality. Probably my favorite character in Love Hina.

I liked Shinobu's innocent and gentle personality a lot. She seemed like the kind of person pretty much anyone could get along with. Seriously, if I had a little sister, I would want her to be like Shinobu. Sadly, I'm an only child...but I have my cousins to look to as little brother and sister figures :). Shinobu is really close to Motoko in terms of favorite characters.

Mutsumi reminded me a lot of myself :lol:. Many times, like her, I can be really absent minded and forgetful and sometimes be in my own little world. I could probably draw many parallels (sp?) between Mutsumi and my personality because she was the character I related to the most.

I wonder who would win in a match between Motoko and Kenshin. Hmmm...*ponders on the thought*.
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Postby Shao Feng-Li » Sun Sep 04, 2005 7:55 am

My favorite character so far is Shinobu. I want to kill Keitaro when he makes her cry. X( Though Keitaro's a cutey. :D
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Postby Hitokiri » Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:50 pm

One person I wish they included in the manga was Kentaro. Although he was annoying, he had some great one-liners in the anime.
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Postby Eric » Fri Jan 06, 2006 1:31 pm

I enjoy fanservice. :thumb:

My favorite characters are Naru and Mutsumi.
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Postby Shao Feng-Li » Fri Jan 06, 2006 6:46 pm

I don't think that's to be a good thing... >>;
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Postby Mikomi » Fri Jan 06, 2006 7:04 pm

I haven't read any of the Love Hina manga, but I have watched the anime. Despite the fanservice, I do enjoy the series. I think the story is cute and there are some really funny moments. My favorite characters are Motoko, Naru, and Tama-chan.
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Postby Eric » Fri Jan 06, 2006 10:20 pm

[quote="Shao Feng-Li"]I don't think that's to be a good thing... >>]
Well it is for me! :grin:
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Postby shooraijin » Fri Jan 06, 2006 11:41 pm

Eric wrote:Well it is for me! :grin:


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Postby Eric » Sat Jan 07, 2006 12:19 am

I was only saying that it doesn't bother me. I wasn't saying that it's ok for everyone.
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Postby Heart of Sword » Sat Jan 07, 2006 12:38 pm

If it's showing entire naked bodies frequently throughout the manga, then it is porn, in my opinion. Some people may not think so. I do. Just like I don't think some things are gorey while others might.
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Postby Heart of Sword » Sat Jan 07, 2006 12:44 pm

I enjoy fanservice.


As a woman, that really offends me, Eric. Fanservice makes us look like sex objects. Same with pornography.
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Money, get away
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And all and all you're just another brick in the wall
Shoutin’ in the street gonna take on the world some day
But Bismallah will not let me go
Because I'll see you on the dark side of the moon

Tommy used to work on the docks
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Bright eyes burning like fire
And exposing every weakness
However carefully hidden by the kids

Who will love a little Sparrow
Who's traveled far and cries for rest
Spare him his life from this monstrosity

I've seen a million faces and I've rocked them all
And if the band youre in starts playing different tunes
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Postby Eric » Sat Jan 07, 2006 3:06 pm

Well I don't view women as sex objects. I just find fan service funny. That's all. I'm not trying to offend anyone.
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Postby jessie88 » Sat Jan 07, 2006 3:32 pm

One time i was at a book store and i started reading Instant teen...it was funny, but i didn't read all of it because i had to go, but then next time i read A.I. Love You...it was soooo FUNNY! but i wasn't sure if their was nudy in it...would you guys consider it nudy??? i can't tell LOL...i read all of the first one but the 2nd one got kinda sexual...but it's hard to find a good manga cuz i don't really know much about a lot of mangas.
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Postby jessie88 » Sat Jan 07, 2006 3:36 pm

The same person her did A.I. Love You did Love Hina...so yeah....i saw a pic of Love Hina and i was like O My goodness...i hope A.I. Love you isn't gonna be bad :shake:
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Postby Hitokiri » Sat Jan 07, 2006 4:20 pm

jessie88 wrote:One time i was at a book store and i started reading Instant teen...it was funny, but i didn't read all of it because i had to go, but then next time i read A.I. Love You...it was soooo FUNNY! but i wasn't sure if their was nudy in it...would you guys consider it nudy??? i can't tell LOL...i read all of the first one but the 2nd one got kinda sexual...but it's hard to find a good manga cuz i don't really know much about a lot of mangas.


A.I. Love You is basically the same thing with Love Hina. Shows bare skin but no detailed nudity. Though I do find A.I. Love You is quite more sexual then Love Hina is.

As for the definition of "nudy", it's up to you. As you read in some posts, some people have said anything fleshy is pornographic or nude while, such as I, believe that detailed nudity is considered nude but the undetailed nudity isn't.

I believe most people here know my stances on fan service/nude in anime/manga is so I won't explain by beliefs.
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Postby Heart of Sword » Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:07 pm

What kind of fanservice, Eric?
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Money, get away
Get a good job with good pay and you're okay
And all and all you're just another brick in the wall
Shoutin’ in the street gonna take on the world some day
But Bismallah will not let me go
Because I'll see you on the dark side of the moon

Tommy used to work on the docks
Union's been on strike
Bright eyes burning like fire
And exposing every weakness
However carefully hidden by the kids

Who will love a little Sparrow
Who's traveled far and cries for rest
Spare him his life from this monstrosity

I've seen a million faces and I've rocked them all
And if the band youre in starts playing different tunes
We will we will rock you
We will we will rock you!

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Postby Eric » Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:59 pm

So long as there's no sex going on, it's fine with me.
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